So last night I was up later than I intended, because I uncovered A Mystery and wanted to find out what the hell was going on
To start with, I was messing around with a website that recommends music based on music you already like, and it recommended Robert Hallow and the Holy Men, and it was right, I did like them. 'This has Amazing Devil vibes', thought I, and then thought no more of it for an hour.
So, I'd found them on Soundcloud, and saw an indication that it was on Apple Music, but couldn't find it on Bandcamp. And there was only one album on Soundcloud but I wanted to know if there was more anywhere, because sometimes artists will start off on Soundcloud but stop using it after a while, so it'll only have their earliest stuff -- but as I was looking around, something strange was going on. I couldn't find anything on this band. Like, I found people talking about them, but no website, no twitter, no youtube, no presence on the internet from the band itself. I found links to a Bandcamp that doesn't exist anymore, and I looked around at the articles and interviews and found links to an also dead instagram account-
What the fuck happened with this band, thought I.
I eventually uncovered a couple of tumblrs, one of which the most recent post was an ask that went something like "Given everything that's happened with Robert Hallow, are you going to delete this tumblr?" and that linked to the other, which was something like "Here's everything I could find out about what happened with Robert Hallow"
What the fuck happened with this band, thought I.
So the short of it is this: Discord.
The less short of it is that there was an official Robert Hallow and the Holy Men fandom discord, and Robert Hallow himself was a member and he would interact with the fanbase. The concrete accusation is that it came out that he heavily underpaid the artist who designed his album cover and his merch, a less concrete accusation is that he was often inappropriate to underage fans, and an accusation that no one will go into details about that actually led to the Disappearance of Robert Hallow is that a fan came to the mods of the discord with something that led to them kicking Robert Hallow out of the discord and deciding to delete the discord 'in 24 hours'
"That sounds like it must have been a serious accusation" you are probably thinking -- just you wait.
Because Robert Hallow wasn't able to defend himself*, he posted a video to his instagram, which "outed" the person who came forward to the mods (there is disagreement on exactly how private this information was in the first place), so that got taken down and he made another video in which he said he was deleting the band's social media presence in its entirety (and, presumably, its bandcamp and patreon). He was visibly distressed and emotional enough in this video that the fandom was genuinely concerned for his safety, but he went through with it and no one has, as far as I know, heard from him since.
Meanwhile in all of this sleuthing, I also started digging up accusations against the Robert Hallow and the Holy Men Discord Mods.
So, to start with, you remember how I said Robert Hallow and the Holy Men has Amazing Devil Vibes? Yeah -- he was a member of Amazing Devil. He's listed as an electric guitarist on The Horror and the Wild... but he ain't on Ruin. And there was heavy, heavy overlap in the fandoms between the two bands, to the extent that when you see the one mentioned you'll pretty much always see the other mentioned, and also the mods in the two official discords are all good friends with each other. So the mods of the Robert Hallow discord would treat the mods of the Amazing Devil discord preferentially, and vice versa.
And there was, I'm gathering, a lot of preferential treatment going on. There are all kinds of accusations against these mods, of them deleting channels without warning, of them reprimanding people for doing the same things they do (being horny, mostly, from what I gather), of them deleting comments. When I was first digging into it, I was thinking people were probably complaining about nothing -- but no, these fandom discords are apparently the worst sort of fandom discords out there and the mods are awful, power-hungry hypocrites.
So, there's a smoking crater now where the band once was, aside from soundcloud and apple music. And it's good music, so it sucks that there's not likely to be more of it, but also those accusations against Robert Hallow do hang heavy.
Meanwhile, I also found out that Daniel Kahn came out with a solo album sometime last year, so I'm going to have to get that when I can.
*Genuinely don't know what preferred pronouns are, here, I have gathered that he identifies as "gender mysterious" and I saw people using both "he/him" and "they/them". So, just going with "he/him" because I gotta choose one or the other to refer to him with