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Whether or not they qualify as a 'found family' is definitely more arguable than anything else, but I'd personally argue that it doesn't... matter...? It's not a 'found family' story, and that's I think what some Internet People™ need to realise, is that a story can feature tropes without it being about those tropes.

If they are a found family, like I said, it's an extremely dysfunctional one, and we could also discuss about whether that's Needed Representation or if it disqualifies them from the trope. Personally I just think they're coworkers who've lived in an enclosed space together with each other and no one else for several years. It doesn't need to be any deeper than that, and trying to force them into a family dynamic cheapens the trope

Which is to say: yes. It's arguably inaccurate and definitely useless as a descriptor and "found family" might need to go on the high shelf for a while.

 
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Cats™ woke me up after like four hours of sleep, on top of the not-enough-sleep I got the night before. A nap is probably in my future.

But I've written down all the grammar points in the chapters we've covered this semester, later I'll jot out an outline of various premises and slot enough grammar points into them to prove they're viable as skits.

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Fetian wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:15 pm

I guess it's possible to have a 'hopeful found-family ending' with a bunch of dead people but like. Let's not be smartasses about this one, eh.

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It can go on the high shelf along with "enemies to lovers" which has just become "they do not immediately fall in love the first time they meet, to people who do later have sex with each other"

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When Oz is a-sleepin' in my lap and she wakes up and looks around and sees me looking down at her and she starts purring 🥹

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So I did in fact nap (after spending some time having a very pleasant and interesting chat with ash about Mouthwashing and tragedies in general), and when I woke up again ash was getting Thanksgiving dinner started, so I went out to help. Dinner was good! We had turkey, broccoli, stuffing, two kinds of mashed potatoes ("normal" and "weird", courtesy of me), and I had cranberry sauce and everyone else had gravy. Not like, as equivalent items. I just don't like gravy very much so I didn't have it, and I'm the only one that likes canned cranberry sauce.

We watched a Very Important People and a couple youtubes and then we finally got around to playing some more Resident Evil 2 -- oh and during the dinnermaking process when we needed to wait for things to cook more we played some Cult of the Lamb. We also had dessert, an apple pie that was a bit of an experiment for ash into making an apple pie he might actually like, and which I did not.

At around nine, ash went to bed and I went to play video games and listen to the new Til Death Do Us Blart. It was fun. I then attempted -- successfully -- to catch a bus in free roaming mode in Bus Simulator and ride it as a passenger, so I've been watching the scenery go by on the TV for a while while I caught up on internet things. Pretty soon I should do more skit related preparation but I'm going to continue to just chill out for a bit. Eat some more food, pet the cats, watch a funny youtube.

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Someone has been listening to Arcadia recently and talking about it in LoN's server with other people, so there's been hundreds of messages about the show in the past few days. Two things have been said about my character ('he's a baby, I want to bite his cheeks' and ash saying the character was written as ADHD), zero things have been said about my performance

Not to be like 'why are we not about me' or anything but it does really confuse me how consistent this is. I don't think Niko is boring and I don't think I did a mediocre job playing him, and yet.

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I have been confused about this exact thing in several AD spaces, because i /do not understand/ why he doesn’t get more direct attention and praise? As a character and actor both??

It bothers me, because I put a lot of work into who and how he is, and your performance is stellar, and yet somehow it seems like auxiliary characters are the ones who are liked? And I spent a lot of time stressing that means i’m writing boring/flat/ignorable protagonists and have no idea how to change that because i think they’re great?

Something someone told me has stuck with me, and it doesn’t make it better because i hate it, but also i can see the potential truth.

they told me that Niko is a very effective POV character in that people start to not see him as a character as much as the device telling the story. A sort of mix between audience stand in and narrator, who does such a good job of carrying the story, he becomes invisible to the listener.

i fucking /hate/ this. and i don’t know how to change it in future writing.

like, assuming it’s true, ok, woo! we’ve made a fantastic story guy and the performance is flawless and seamless, and now….. what? he’s just a vehicle for narrative????

but he’s god damn not because he’s the fucking /focal point/ of the story??????? in not “seeing” him, you’re being unaware of the action he takes and choices he makes that are what carry the story you’re hearing???????

Obviously, i don’t know if this is /true/, or how many people it’s true /for/, but it does make sense in a stupid way, and I don’t have any clue what to do about it (going forward, obviously not with a finished show etc)

tangentially related but i have /no ideas/ why fans pick the characters they pick to make their special little guys. there have been so many times i’ve made something thinking “ok, yeah, he has The Traits Of A Special Little Guy” and then they’re just… nothing.

ugh. sorry for going off on this rant but i hate it and don’t know how to change it. and also that it’s like……… /kind/ of a compliment? but a shitty one.


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AND ALSO.
It’s hard for me to interject stuff about him, and what thought went into him and his whole… thing…. simply because there aren’t being spaces opened for it, and i hate that too.


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wtf forum, why did you post three times


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